Click on the links below, and carefully read the articles:
Bush Vetoes Child Health Care Bill
House to Vote on New Child Health Bill
Then, based on the article and our discussion in class, reflect on the following questions:
What are the checks and balances taking place here?
Is healthcare a federal, city, or individual responsibility?
What are the limits of "promote the general welfare?"
31 comments:
It is my opinion that federalizing healthcare would be a huge mistake. The Checks and Balances taking place here is that the Legislative branch checked with the Executive branch, and they both agreed that the President should sign this bill. The President didn't agree and vetoed the bill. The Senate and House aready have the needed 2/3 vote to overide the President. I believe that healthcare is up to the individual. If we rely on the gov't for healthcare, it will not be quality healthcare. Doctors will be rushed from patient to patient and things will get missed. If you pay for private insurance, you pick who, when, and where. There are a lot of limitations with this bill. Eligibility would be harder and illegal aliens would not be covered. Children of families making 3 times the piverty level (or $61,950) would not be eligible same as adults without children. States would also be responsible for varifying citizenship and immigrant status. Just remember:
YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!!
RichardP 902 P.4
the checks and balances that are taken here are that bush wants to produce a good bill that puts poorer children first.and he needs it to be approved.
I think that health care is half and half depending on the family and how much money they make and all sorts of questions like that. it could be federal, city, or individual responsibility. the limits of "promote the general welfare are where you and the government cant do anything to help one another.
1.)I believe the Checks and Balances taking place here is the Executive Branch is checking the Legislative Branch.
2.)I believe healthcare is a Federal problem because in the preamble of the Constitution it states that the government must protect us.If we dont have healthcare they must find a way to help us and find a way to get it for us.
3.)I dont believe there are any limits.I think if the government should go to any extent to protect us and our rights.
-Chrissy Thomatos Period 6.
I think the checks and balances in this situation would be the legislative against the executive branch.HOnestly healthcare should be a personal responsibillity however,if the person can not afford the responsibility the government should have some part in it. There shouldn't be any limits of general welfare because if the people aren't protected the government will lose it's job.General welfare means to basically protect and serve the people.So that means providing laws, rights and somewhat funds for hospitals the people go to because if the people are hurt the government is doing it's job.
Billy Poulos
wjps
1)The checks and balances are taking place in the President Bush’s veto to the children’s health bill because the president is checking the Legiselative branch.
2)I think that healthcare is a federal responsibility and an individual responsibility because the person/people who need the healthcare are responsible to get it, and it is the federal responsibility to give healthcare to the people who cannot afford it, or to people whose jobs do not give healthcare.
3)I think the limits of promote the general welfare is when healthcare is given to the people who dont need it, or when money is given to the people who dont need it.
By: Monica Torosyan
Class:902
Period:7
What i would say is federalizing health care would be a big mistake.The checks and balances taking place is executive and legislative branch want the president to sign the veto.There are to many limits to this new bill and how it will work.It will raise tax and i think it is a waste of money over the five years because in five years we will have 90 billion dollars and if we use it now we will be short of 90 billion dollars.That is what i need to say about this veto.
Cisco.C
I believe that President Bush actually made the right decision for once. The checks and balances he is that the legislative branch is being checked by the executive branch. Supporting this bill would would be unnecessary because the federalization of heath care would be taking away from its sole purpose which is aiding poor children. Like what Bush said in a video clip that was viewed in class today, this bill would be supporting families that receive an income of 83,000 dollars a year. That does not sound like a poor family if you ask. That sounds more like a family that can afford reasonable health care for their family. I believe that health care should be determined by the actual citizen. After all this is America and its the land of the free. The health care provided by the government might be a simple one time checkup and really cheap bargain medicines. Private health care gives the citizen more flexibility if you ask me. Like what Richard said, doctors would be overwhelmed by patients and probably would not be able to give the patient the proper medical assistance that they would would need. Patients might end up leaving the clinic empty handed. Medicaid is much better in terms of promoting general welfare. Jason K 902
I believe that President Bush actually made the right decision for once. The checks and balances he is that the legislative branch is being checked by the executive branch. Supporting this bill would would be unnecessary because the federalization of heath care would be taking away from its sole purpose which is aiding poor children. Like what Bush said in a video clip that was viewed in class today, this bill would be supporting families that receive an income of 83,000 dollars a year. That does not sound like a poor family if you ask. That sounds more like a family that can afford reasonable health care for their family. I believe that health care should be determined by the actual citizen. After all this is America and its the land of the free. The health care provided by the government might be a simple one time checkup and really cheap bargain medicines. Private health care gives the citizen more flexibility if you ask me. Like what Richard said, doctors would be overwhelmed by patients and probably would not be able to give the patient the proper medical assistance that they would would need. Patients might end up leaving the clinic empty handed. Medicaid is much better in terms of promoting general welfare. Jason K 902
Karen Castaneda,
- executive branch is checking the legislative branch.
- i think it is a federal problem
- i think there are no limits to promote the general welfare.
Congress (the legasitive branch) proposes a new law, which is their purpose. Congress passes the law to President Bush (executive branch) to carry out the law. Also that branch has the power to veto the law, if they do not approve it. Which is what President Bush did, he rejected the law and now the congress will do what it can in its power to overwrite the law.
Based on the discussion we had in class and the articles, I believe that the government has the responsbility. Their job is to keep our well being and protect our natural rights. I think that offering healthcare would benefit us as the people. I believe that the limit of promoting the general welfare is to the point that government helps us in our needs and that we can stand on our own two feet and no longer need help.
Livi Cabrera
Period 6
In this atrical I thnk that the checks and balancesat are taking place s that the legislative branch had checked with the exective branch and they both agreed on to override the veto bill and which they have passed the law. I think that the heathcare is a federal problem and not alot of the indvatial problem first it is the federal problem because they have to support you if you need help and that they are suppose to help you because it says in the preamble it is to protect the gernal welfare. I think it is also an indivuals problem to because they should make sure that they can support there faimly if they need to. They should make sure thay can aford to get them heathcare if they are in need of it. Thats what i think about these artical.
By:Erin O'Driscoll 903
well the president is vetoing the law and the legislative check the the executive branch.boths sides that the president should sigh the bill and not veto it!i belive that healthcare should be the governments problem , why cause the government is always collecting taxes and all there realy doing is spending it on the war on irac or the so call operation!
also i forgot to add that there should be no limits to promoting the general wellfare!!
The checks And balances on this one is the legislative branch checking with the executive branch wanted the bill to pass but the president vetoed it. In my opinion i think it was plain retarted that the president actuallly vetoed it. i was reading one of the articles and one qoute mentioned how he's wiling to pay for a war in iraq and not the poor children who dont have healthcare.in my opinion the children should come first.i know the president mentions about private heathcare companies but isn't it the governments job to protect the people. yes there are limits but this should not be one of them. the poor children need this money
Rabaya Rahman
1) the checks and balances that is being shown here is the executive branch checking the legislative branch.
2) it is hard to say whether or not it would be federal, city , or individual responsibility i would have to say all because it would be your (an individual) responsibility to try and get insurances it would be the city's responsibility to make sure everyone has insurance.it would be the federals responsibility would be to make sure everything was in check. so i don't really think i would just choose one of them.
3)the limits wold be to prioritize citizens and make sure they are safe and have food and good health
teila t. class 902
The checks and balances taking place here are the executive checking the legislative branch. That's the first article where the president vetoes the child health care bill. In the second article the legislative is checking the executive branch because the senate is trying to override that veto. I think healthcare is the responsibility of the three. It depends on the individual's income.
The limits are economic. The government should help the people that need the most. They should prioritize.
by:mariela ortiz(per.7)
MARIA QUINTERO 902 7TH PEROID
The Checks and Balances taking place here is that the Legislative branch checked with the Executive branch, and they both agreed that the President should sign this bill. The President didn't agree and vetoed the bill.It depends on how much money they make,if they can not afford it then i belive the federl government should pay for it. i think that the federel goverenent should onldo it forte seriously injred or with seroios desise
The role that the senates and the president play in checks and balances would be the senates as the legislative and the president being the executive branch. In this article it says how the president that vetoed the bill on child’s health care was trying to be overridden by the senates. This would be the legislative branch checking the executive branch. Healthcare is supposed to be for the individual responsibility because they provide the care and money. I strongly believe that the limits for the government to “promote the general welfare” is just mainly to help the people with necessary needs, such as, food, clothes, a roof over your head, and including the medical needs. As for having it in your hand you have to do that yourself.
Shazia R. ^-^
period 7
In this scenario of the congress wanting to extend children's health care president George W. Bush is checking the legislative branch. This means president Bush didnt agree with the bill and vetoed it. In my opinion i think childrens health care is up to the individual and their parents, if they really want it. To me i think the limits of the governement promoting general welfare is as long children have food on the table, clothes on there back, shelter, saftey and healthy. If those nessary needs are fulfilled then the government fully completed their job. I also think it is there own fault that they cant afford insurance for their children and if they cant then they should do something about it. It isnt fair for the middle class people for work hard to support a family and to make sure their kids have a good life style and the necessities needed.
JACLYN LEONE
901
PERIOD 7
The Checks and Balances taking place here are the Legislative branch is checked the Executive branch. However, they both agree that President Bush should sign the bill. The President didn't like the bill and vetoed it.
I think healthcare is a cities responsibility. cities can look at each individual family better than a federal government. Instead of the federal government having to look at everyones files/applications for healthcare, they can brake it up so the cities are responsible for there citizens. People will be looked at and defined more. For example: instead of someone not getting healthcare because they make to much money, someone might get healthcare for making to much money but supporting 7 children, the spouse doesn't work, and they are in debt for 10,000.
The limits of promote the general welfare are people making 3 times the poverty level in a family of 4 will not be eligible. If you are not a citizen then you are not eligible. Also if your social security number does not match up with the states then you are not eligible.
903 period:7
The president vetoed the orginial health bill which is an example of the concept of checks and balances. Congress in the second article is also an example of checks and balances because the democrates in Congress are trying to gather enough support to override a presidential veto. If a child gets really sick and needs healthcare I think that the state government should pay because not all parents have the money to get the child the healthcare that they need. The good of the people and their common welfare can be threatened when special interest groups such as the National Rifle Association or NRA have influenced politicians to pass laws that only benefit people who own guns and ignore the dangers of putting guns into the hands of criminals.
Maria A
USHistory 09
I think that checks and balances is taking place with the executive and the legislative branch.I think this is between the federal and the individual. If the people are rich then it should be an individual thing, but if they dont have enough to pay for the health care then it should be the federal who can pay for it. There shouldnt be limitations it should go as far as possivble until the issue is solved.
Eirene Skocos
class 903
1]The checks and balances taking place here are the executive branch checking the legislatvie branch.
2]Healthcare is a federal responsibility because it should be the goverments responsibility to protect its people.
3]There shouldn't be any limits of promoting the general welfare, the goverment should do whatever it takes to help someone in need. If it is necessary they should help them, like someone who is badly cut and needs stitches. The goverment should be able to provide for them and not have it cost a lot of money. Unneccesary surgary or procedures shouldn't be taking care of unless there is a backround check.
Amanda P. 901 period 6
1)The checks and balances here in this event are the executive branch or President Bush is checking the legislative which is the House of Representatives and the senate. In my opinion I think that healthcare is a federal responsibility because in the Constitution the goverment gives its word about promoting the general welfare which means giving us needs neccessary for life. Of course some people take advantage of this but that's why this 'promote the genral welfare has limits. I think the limits to thisare that they should make sure the people can't afford healthcare and insurance or take the number of children in the family. The people that take advantage of this are taking advantage of other peoples life by wasting the goverments money in something they can afford.
Danny P 902 P.7
The checks and balances being checked here is the Executive branch checked the Legislative branch. The legislative branch, which is the senate and house, proposed the bill for healthcare then the executive branch, the president, vetoed the bill. Health care is a federal problem and the government has to take care of these problems. I think that health care should be a city problem. I think this because there is no reason for a person who lives in California to help pay for an operation of a person who lives in Florida. What does this person have to do with the person living in Californis? Nothing, theres should be no reason for the person in California to help pay for the person in Florida by paying higher taxes because the person in Florida needs a special surgery that that person cannot afford. There are many limitations in this bill. This bill will make it harder for for illegal aliens to get health insurance and it will be harder for eligibility. I dont this is so bad. I think this because i think only citizens should get health insurance.
- Nick C. class 901
my opinion on mr.bush is vetoing the healthcare for poor children. the checks and balances is taking place in the braches legislative and executive they all all agree about signing the bill for the kids and mr.bush doesnt because he said that its not good enough well they have all the votes to make the veto overrided the veto should be for the people to vote on not the presdent
Kala Mancini 901 pd.7
The Checks and Blances that are taking place is the Executive brance representing the president and the Legislative Branch representing the congress. Healtcare is the federals respinsibility because he whole nation in involved, there are children all over the country that do not have healthcare.
The limit for "promoting the general welfare"is letting poeple vote.The people are contributing to make their city,country,or town a better place.
Bridgette V
Period 5
The checks and balances talking place in these articles are congress creates new bill and is passed on to the president who then rejects/vetoes the bill. Healthcare is both a federal and individual responsibility. But in order to get the healthcare each "person" must do their half. The people first must request healthcare and then the federal gov't must then approve or dissapprove. There are no limits to "promote the general welfare" the gov't must do all it can to help the people they cant be lazy and just see how things go. The gov't must help anyway they can and feel they should.
---Kristofer Diaz
In my opinion President George Bush isn't really being fair but at the same time he right because children health insures doesn't only cover the poor people but also the rich people and that isn't fair but then again it wouldn't be fair to the poor kids that are injured and really need help.The Check and Balances taking place here is that Both branches check and agreed with Bush's idea. I think HealthCare is a federal responsibility and a individual because there's a balance between what we should take care of and what the federal gov't can do to help us.
~>Daniela Varcasia
period 6 903
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I say that the executive is checking the legislative. They sent him a bill or law and it was to him to say that he must vetoe it. He has the power to do so but then its the Congresses decision to override it or not. President Bush states that the poorer children must be helped.
I believe general welfare is a federal government issue. The reason I say this is because they have the most money and the most power. And also it should not be just filed down to one city or one individual person! All people who need help must get it, they deserve it. They should have the right to live, eat, and have anything else a upper class person has.
I do not think there should be any limit to the promotion of general welfare. If somebody needs help they need it. If Bush is really true to what he is saying, he should go foward and help the lives of the poor and the middle class.
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